John Wheeler Podcast #4: The Heart Of The Matter

Here is Podcast #4 in our series with John Wheeler (updated): 

Click to play or Right Click to Download: John Wheeler 4. Being Joy

This Talk is about peeling away all definitions, diving to the core, and uncovering the true nature if the “I Am”. I recommend that you listen to # 1, #2, and espcially #3,  ”The Golden Key” first, then this one.

Links:

John Wheeler 1.True Freedom

John Wheeler 2. Fact of Being

John Wheeler 3, "Golden Key"

Let these pointers sink in fully and that will be the immediate and permanent end of any seeking and suffering. As John puts it, and in my own actual experience, THIS is the "Peace of Nothing Wrong"!

John’s Website is www.thenaturalstate.org; you can e-mail John with questions, direct to naturalstate111@yahoo.com.

You may also comment or ask a question here; either by e-mail to non.duality@yahoo.com or using the comments link below - you’ll need a (free) Google account to comment here.

Note: Are you a "seeker"? If so, have you not noticed that right now, you are present and aware? That aware presence IS what is sought. You cannot ever attain that because you already ARE that. Also, where is a separate "person"? Only in thought which comes and goes in that awareness which you are. Being that, why seek? The search ends in the direct seeing you are that awake presence here and now

Listen several times to this and John's other Podcasts here. Let this potency of your own truth beyond language sink in and pierce the cloudlike "citadel of false concepts". 

The simple truth is, the Natural State for Human Beings is Joy. Come home to that … here, now. I Love You.

Charlie

the grateful heart

(Updated) ... S. Writes, Hi Charlie, I wrote something to you about your "leaving" for other destinations: 

I want to tell you that your contribution to this specific life until now has been amazing and highly appreciated…  this heart came back to a warm beat thanks to the pointers that you and your friends thru you gave me … So much gratitude… Thanks a lot and have fun with your new flow of life. ~S.

C: Thank YOU, S. ... your own open heart is what "gets it"... all we do is "point" ... I deeply appreciate your acknowledgment, and the gratitude felt here is of that one heart as you are expressing it in your own loving way.

So... now you know! That’s awesome! As to "other destinations", I am still looking into  possibilities for producing income but there is a natural flow of expression that brings me back to expressing, sharing and answering questions from those sincerely committed to ending their personal suffering (and perhaps the suffering of as many others as possible, as well) once and for good. To put the inexpressible into pointers is a challenge because language is dualistic and can therefore only "point" to that timeless essence which is ever present, our own aware being, present and awake always now. To say it poetically, that is the true peace of "nothing wrong right now".

Thanks again for reaching out and a big hug and a silent bow to you, as you are the ever-present ONE.

I Love You,

Charlie

Response from S: Iguess when the heart opens the senses to the pointers it gets easier for the message to reach the centre in clarity and true understanding and the pointers can be very clear and amazingly effective when coming from an open hearted source. In my little experience, I know for myself, when there is clarity and sincerity and no goal here, whatever I share with others is much more effective than when I am confused and subtly "wanting" something back. Of course on the other side there might bee openeness or not, but in some way if I am sincere and clear the response on the other side is also sincere and clear and even if it might be a "not ...", that answer is clear and sincere enough to open a new door in any case .. The sharing you and John Wheeler and JD few others are genuinely having with us here is very touching because it has got the freshness of honesty and clear understanding beyond the mind of people that have been thru the same difficulties of all of us here; you speek to me because you is me and this is is rare jewel to find anywhere ..
Much Love
S

C: Perfectly beautiful, your authentic sharing. Thank you again for Being Who You Are.

New review of "You Are Unborn" just in

As “You Are Unborn: Pointers to Your Natural State of Eternal Freedom” amply illustrates, Charlie Hayes' productivity is matched only by his clarity. Indeed, the "cleanness" and concision of his prose is apt to nudge the seeker into carefully re-reading whatever nondual gem that he or she may be perusing. This occurs not because Charlie's expressions are difficult follow, but because --more often than not--the seeker is likely to think: "It can't be that simple!" or "Wait, can this really be what he is pointing to"? And that it is: Felt-presence and spaciousness. Only this and nothing else. With these pointers, I am tempted to proffer (and pun!) that Charlie points the way. But there is no "way," as much--just a seeing or understanding of That which is in full evidence. Perhaps the greatest compliment that one nonduality teacher can offer to another one is to say that he or she is "the real deal." And Charlie Hayes is just that.

Rodney Stevens

Rodney himself  is definitely "the Real Deal!" See him at http://radianceofbeing.blogspot.com .

are you any appearance?

Have you noticed that everything that appears is temporary? Can you see that any temporal happening is happening and appearing to something that does not ever change in any way, shape or form? That it IS "no shape or form"?

What is it that these temporary things appear TO? Can what the show appears in ever be altered by the show? What is it that sees and knows the showing up of all these temporary things? What if that unchanging awareness to which everything appears is what is real, what you are? Is there anything "wrong" for that to which life appears? Is there not some timeless essence in which "you" and "world" show up, come to pass (not to stay?) Even if there is a direct seeing of nothing, even that nothing must be an appearance in the show.

To know yourself as the space in which all of the showing appears is to realize you were never born and can never die. And that is the true peace that is your natural, eternal state. Being (the show) requires the screen we might call not-being. We cannot claim with veracity that awareness is missing: You cannot have something that is not. For there to be not awareness requires awareness! Defining yourself as awareness, taking your stand in that direct incontrovertible experience that I am that, awareness, space, ends all possibility of "something wrong". There cannot be "wrong" for space. Being that and refusing to accept the limiting conceptual constructs of a small flawed "me" is the only direct and immediate realization that you already are what you are seeking. Simple. Keep it that way... immediately and simply, being, just that.

'The Golden Key' ... a 3rd Podcast with John Wheeler

This is the third in our current series of Audio MP3 Recordings of the simple yet profound expression of Nonduality coming through John Wheeler, author of "The Light Behind Consciousness" and many other potent books on this topic. This one is extremely powerful; really a "Golden Key" to the end of seeking and suffering. 

Click HERE to listen (or Right Click & Save to Download).

Here is a a point John expands on in this audio:

The notion “something seems incomplete”  is simply a thought coming and going in your own doubtless, aware and present nature. Is there anything missing or incomplete about the simple fact of being? The doubt makes a tacit reference to the “I” entity that we have assumed as a valid reference point and as our identity. But that, too, is only an appearance! You have never been that “I” notion at all! In fact, you have never been anything other than what you are. That “you are” is the simple truth of what is being pointed to. Pause there and drink in the immense impact that this doubtless, non-conceptual being/knowing principle is what you ARE, here and now. This is the heart-essence of what the sages and traditions have been saying all along. Reality is the substratum of being and knowing from which the universe appears and into which it subsides. And .... you are THAT. This is what needed to be recognized. Now you know!

Visit John Wheeler at www.thenaturalstate.org.

Previous Podcasts with John Wheeler:

John Wheeler 1.True Freedom

John Wheeler 2. The Fact of Being

I am not i

To point out what I am is to point out what YOU are. I am I am. And infinitely less than That. And, infinitely more than That.

What IS "That"?

Thingless Spacelike Being.

Not the "word" being, but ... simply Being. AKA No Thing.

But that No Thing is not "void". That is also everything. Reality is No Thing... AND ... Everything. We say "and" because that is the limit of language. Better say NothingEverything.

Or even better say nothin' at all, except maybe "I am Love and so, my dear One, are YOU".

That is more than enough. YOU are more than enough! I Love Being Love with You!

Still seeking? Scroll down for John Wheeler's Podcasts!

what is missing?

Q: Okay, I have been asking “who am I” and asking “Who is asking”. I come up with blankness, nothing. At this stage there doesn’t feel like I can do anymore than this; i.e. just rest with this and move on. What am I missing?

C: 1. What is “missing” for “whom”?

Missing for “I”?  Who is that I?” Does it exist in Reality? Is “I” a separate object? Or ONLY an empty idea? Bring it back to that final unanswered question. What is that “I”? Who speaks and listens “I” this and “I” that? No one! There is no person in the organism; the person is only a languaged “mask” (persona) developed out of insecurity and fear. You are No Thing. For whom is That not obvious and completely clear?

That non-answer … that blankness, or no thing, IS the “answer”. Your True Nature is Blank. THAT is pointed to with words: Open empty Light, nondual presence awareness, Beingness, and nonconceptual knowingness. All words do is POINT! Don’t overlook this essential precept … the word is NOT the thing pointed to by the word. What You are is beyond or prior to all words.

2. What could be missing for this Presence, this Awake-Beingness? That natural knowing that “I AM … here, now, present and aware? Is anything missing for No Thing?

No. Nothing is Nothing and what could be “missing” would ONLY appear in a story that has no meaning and no permanence. The Reality that you ARE is that No Thing.

The knowing of natural seeing is that the only "place" "missing" can happen is in story. Time, mind, identity … the “me” story.

Just do not overlook the Presence BEHIND all the appearances, which allows for whatever is happening. That, the Presence behind the story, behind consciousness, even behind or prior to the being-knowing-I AM is all there really is like an IS.

Source is all.

Contemplate:

What is the Source of SOURCE?

What is the Source of Being, Knowing, Seeing?

Where is the Source of SOURCE?

All so called "problems" are only thoughts arising in Space-Awareness; as a fictional tale of a nonexistent character called "the me" or "this person". It's the "tale told by an idiot, signifying nothing", is it not? Full stop.

Q: Once I pass, the I am “this person with this name” answer ... there is just nothing … a very fixed a forceful nothing back.

C: SO That is who you are. That No Thing! Free and clear, open and aware, whole and complete. Now you know. No going back!

Be That and all problems are gone. Simple, as That IS already always present and aware, here and now. Don’t sell out! Be as you are. I Love You.

Podcast: Know Who You ARE: John Wheeler #2

John Wheeler points out the major keys to KNOWING, with Absolute Certainty, what You Truly ARE, and clears any misconceptions about what is being pointed to by the sages once and for good. Listen a few times, and let this potent pointing erase any doubts or confusions about your True Nature.

Click HERE to listen (Right Click Save to download).

Recently, John wrote:

The notion “something seems incomplete”  is simply a thought coming and going in your own doubtless, aware and present nature. Is there anything missing or incomplete about the simple fact of being? The doubt makes a tacit reference to the “I” entity that we have assumed as a valid reference point and as our identity. But that, too, is only an appearance! You have never been that “I” notion at all! In fact, you have never been anything other than what you are. That “you are” is the simple truth of what is being pointed to. Pause there and drink in the immense impact that this doubtless, non-conceptual being/knowing principle is what you ARE, here and now. This is the heart-essence of what the sages and traditions have been saying all along. Reality is the substratum of being and knowing from which the universe appears and into which it subsides. And .... you are THAT. This is what needed to be recognized. Now you know!

THAT says it all.

John's website is www.thenaturalstate.org

Podcast #1 with John Wheeler

Nonduality author and teacher John Wheeler shares the simple basics and clarifies what is actually SO at the Heart Of The matter ... and also points powerfully to the illusory nature of a believed-assumed self-center which illusion is the taproot of suffering. Listen, enjoy, listen again; let John reveal The Heart Of The Matter for YOU, right here, right now. Remove that mask!

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John's website is www.thenaturalstate.org.

preface to truth

The Truth is NOT what you and I know. Nor is the Truth what you and I DON’T know. So what IS “The Truth”?

Let’s just say, “Don’t Know is a good starting point to return to The Truth”.

Look at this one: What is That which you “don’t know that you don’t know”?

Shall we dance?

I call this little essay a “Preface”. It may well become part of the preface to my next book, “The Power Of Being”, scheduled for Spring 2010 publication.

So what does “preface” mean? The everyday definition is “introducing” something; a book, a speech etc.  But I have a deeper point to make with the word “preface”. It comes from my readings in Zen.

A Zen “koan” goes, “What was your face before your parents were born?” In other words, what is your true nature, PRE Face? Before-Face (it could be said) is NO Face. That might point to what is called “Truth of Natural Being” … AKA No Thing, or Self unaware of Its Self. Like the Sun, shining not knowing its Light until the appearance of some object that reflects Its Light back to Itself.

There is, prior to Face, No Face. No Thing. Eternal Light of Unchanging Being, Prior to both being AND Not-being. It’s unknowable yet IT IS. The Latin word for that is ‘est’. But what we are offering here is, There Is NO Is. That No-Is, thou art! Tat Tvam Asi.

What you and I are is the Pre-Face of that which is Source, the One-Source of Life itself; the  a priori empty Light of Timelessness, eternal Being and nothing but That. Pre-Face, You and I ARE ... but NOT as “You And I”, rather as One-Unchanging Is/Not Is.

The Koan dissolves when sunk in to the Being-You-Are ("I AM") ... like a vaccination of an anti-viral serum to eliminate the deadly virus of assumed separateness. AKA “ego”.

Let It Be.

What ARE You, PRE Face?

Who were you before your parents were born? That is True-Nature. Faceless Being.  Authenticity … Authentically, Your One And Only Home.