Q: I always enjoy the directness of your posts, videos and Podcasts. Interesting to see you quoting Tony Parsons in recent posts, especially concerning something that Tony mentions a lot; that separateness is an energetic contraction not just simply the presence of the 'I' thought'.
I seem to remember you discussing this point in one of the series of Podcasts you did with another teacher and that teacher’s view (if I remember correctly) was that this was conceptual nonsense. Of course all expressions, ultimately, are conceptual nonsense although if there is resonance with a pointer it can have some relative value. Unless I'm mistaken (quite possible!) one of that teachers pointers is to look for the assumed 'I' and discover it's absence, whereas Tony is suggesting that nothing can be done about the contracted energy it either remains contracted or 'explodes'. Anything you can add?
C: Tony and I and a very few others sharing a direct Message are NOT saying "there is nothing can be done”; we are pointing out that THERE IS NO ONE! I found that so many who followed a teaching of "looking for the I to discover its absence" had seemingly produced a temporary sense of "no I" but that will always leave that "I" firmly in place. LOOK: "HOW is an absence to discover its own absence!?" It is oxymoronic! Any suggestion that there is an I that can look for itself becomes the ultimate con game, as seen here. Yet it certainly happened here along the way. All sorts of things happen in the "process of Liberation" after the "Rude Awakening" form the dream of “I” happens, there is a timeless apper5cption that appears as languaging, a kind of sensing in the organism, Oh god! I have no free will, there is NOTHING!
Given that there is no one, who is to "look"? This is where the final truth parts company with any suggestion that the phantom “seeker” DO ANYTHING! That particular “doing” may reinforce the false sense of a "me" with volition! It did in my case.
Yet it all happens as it DOES ... so no one is either right or wrong. At present Tony, Wayne Liquorman and Ramesh Balsekar are expressions that "feel" MOST potent here (and those three were my "teachers" before I met that other teacher and ultimately those three were seen to be THE ones who provided that needed push out of "becoming and investigating" etc.) And so there pointers are shared along with “mine”, as they are aligned with the experiencing more closely than others (who I still love and respect of course). It is ALL The One ... AND all words drop in This Silence at last and there goes all need for "teachings and teachers!"
Yes, it IS all bullshit, including THIS. So what? Ha!!
Lets be clear! The "contracted or exploding" is beyond any "seeker's volitional control!!
Nothing against anyone, that teacher-friend or any others; these expressions happen as part of the Totality. So what? There is no one “doing” ANYTHING, including “doing nothing!”
It’s a about a false sense of being in control, in fact in my experience all attempts to "produce" that "absence" (which already IS the True condition) by personal "doing", firmly keep that contraction in place, and it IS a very powerful dream. But in that last step out of contraction that no one can take, what is blatantly OBVIOUS is that "Actions happen, deeds are done, but there is no individual doer thereof." As The Buddha said!
Good questions. I enjoyed watching the responses come out of nowhere.
I seem to remember you discussing this point in one of the series of Podcasts you did with another teacher and that teacher’s view (if I remember correctly) was that this was conceptual nonsense. Of course all expressions, ultimately, are conceptual nonsense although if there is resonance with a pointer it can have some relative value. Unless I'm mistaken (quite possible!) one of that teachers pointers is to look for the assumed 'I' and discover it's absence, whereas Tony is suggesting that nothing can be done about the contracted energy it either remains contracted or 'explodes'. Anything you can add?
C: Tony and I and a very few others sharing a direct Message are NOT saying "there is nothing can be done”; we are pointing out that THERE IS NO ONE! I found that so many who followed a teaching of "looking for the I to discover its absence" had seemingly produced a temporary sense of "no I" but that will always leave that "I" firmly in place. LOOK: "HOW is an absence to discover its own absence!?" It is oxymoronic! Any suggestion that there is an I that can look for itself becomes the ultimate con game, as seen here. Yet it certainly happened here along the way. All sorts of things happen in the "process of Liberation" after the "Rude Awakening" form the dream of “I” happens, there is a timeless apper5cption that appears as languaging, a kind of sensing in the organism, Oh god! I have no free will, there is NOTHING!
Given that there is no one, who is to "look"? This is where the final truth parts company with any suggestion that the phantom “seeker” DO ANYTHING! That particular “doing” may reinforce the false sense of a "me" with volition! It did in my case.
Yet it all happens as it DOES ... so no one is either right or wrong. At present Tony, Wayne Liquorman and Ramesh Balsekar are expressions that "feel" MOST potent here (and those three were my "teachers" before I met that other teacher and ultimately those three were seen to be THE ones who provided that needed push out of "becoming and investigating" etc.) And so there pointers are shared along with “mine”, as they are aligned with the experiencing more closely than others (who I still love and respect of course). It is ALL The One ... AND all words drop in This Silence at last and there goes all need for "teachings and teachers!"
Yes, it IS all bullshit, including THIS. So what? Ha!!
Lets be clear! The "contracted or exploding" is beyond any "seeker's volitional control!!
Nothing against anyone, that teacher-friend or any others; these expressions happen as part of the Totality. So what? There is no one “doing” ANYTHING, including “doing nothing!”
It’s a about a false sense of being in control, in fact in my experience all attempts to "produce" that "absence" (which already IS the True condition) by personal "doing", firmly keep that contraction in place, and it IS a very powerful dream. But in that last step out of contraction that no one can take, what is blatantly OBVIOUS is that "Actions happen, deeds are done, but there is no individual doer thereof." As The Buddha said!
Good questions. I enjoyed watching the responses come out of nowhere.
Much Love to you.
